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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist Among Us and

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angel once the world has its own rules

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of phantoms at Monster's

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discuss some of the Cryptid and

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so in 2018

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the Chicago Wing humanoid phenomena

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uh turned out to be a hub for several

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so this presentation will examine most

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of those reports

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and so next week then I will detail more

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including the possibility that other

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instance in detail and attempt to answer

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so the

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report was posted on August 18th

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2017. now I know we're going back into

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but this kind of started

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uh a trend of sightings in the Rock

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now the singer 14 society which is

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Tobias and Emily Whalen or part of fans

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of Monster's Fortune research team they

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were contacted by a witness

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who cleaned as seen a creatures similar

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to the Flying humanoid that's been

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haunting the area around Lake Michigan

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now the witness who agreed to touch

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his first name Dalton to the sighting

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first reported this encounter online two

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I stayed if I had not experienced the

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please I assure you this 100 the whole

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story of that particular night

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so uh it began as a typical summer day

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approximately five years ago uh these

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my friend Nick and I were cruising

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around in our 1990 in my 1997 Firebird

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as the day progressed we decided to head

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towards the country roads and do some

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typical behavior for a 16 year old with

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this was something we did quite often

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so now me and Nick are talking while I'm

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repeatedly slowing down and then

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applying the gas hard so we could get my

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vehicle sideways on this straight patch

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now the corn on the sides of this old

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fifth time only I could see the corn

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I had expected a group of deer to run

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the corn was now shaking fiercely and

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staring at the corn waiting for the

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expected Wildlife to pass

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now I'm not sure how to describe this

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the corn parted about eight feet in

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front of the car I I don't know if you

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have ever seen a deer jump out of the

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but completely black mind you my

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stretch of road in the corn area so the

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whole seam was well eliminated now as I

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it opened up these huge set of wings and

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it flew right in front of the car into

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after the quick zigzags is shot straight

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up into the air I mean shot

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like it was placed in a cannon and

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blasted into the sky

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t-tops so me and Nick both jerked our

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heads up but due to my lights pointing

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forward obviously it being dark out we

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couldn't see where the creature went

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I floored the car well Nick screaming go

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go go go

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I drive as fast as I can while still

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maintaining controlling the gravel now

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us I don't know why but we instantly

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assume that this thing was chasing us

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now mind you that from this moment when

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we started to see the corn move to when

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this thing left our view it was only a

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matter of about 30 seconds

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and we finally start to calm down on a

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road that was frequently that you know

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we could see farmers in the fields and

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tractors being that I can see other

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people I feel safer

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the road immediately say it

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what the f was that

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but we had no answers

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the only thing we came up was with was

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that it was the size of a deer but flew

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like a bat

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we named it accordingly the deer back

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we say it was the size of a deer but it

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was actually humanoid sheep

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it just ran out of the Corn like a deer

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the deer bat was incredibly black like

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it was covered in tar

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the field a couple yards by us is a

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harvest in proc progress sign so again

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being dumb teenagers we decide to steal

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the sign I run and grab it and shove it

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throw hoodies over it

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was a large sign it had a metal pull

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still attached to it

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it didn't hide in the back of the

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firebird too well but we managed and we

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headed out of the country and made it to

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neighboring town to do Medford excuse me

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we both were thirsty and wanted a snack

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so I pull into a gas station back my car

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into space that faces the main room now

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as soon as I shut my car off this old

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beat up rusted Chevy pulls in front of

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me as if he's blocking us in

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his windows are tinted dark we couldn't

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see who was in it or what was going on

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he remained there for several minutes

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this night was already a big nope

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and the last thing I wanted was a

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hillbilly uh trying to start something

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as mysteriously as he pulled up without

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this was somebody who had seen us take

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the sign that he you know he was there

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getting my plate number

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maybe he was waiting for us to get out

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of the car to confront us the only

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problem was that he entered from our

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left and exited on the right he was

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never behind my car to get the plates I

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didn't have a plate on the front of my

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car anyway

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though he left so we went and got our

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drinks and chips and drove to my house

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to to go to sleep

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I have no idea if the truck was related

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to any of the other events of that night

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or not but it was creepy nonetheless

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to me the only way I can describe the

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deer bat is to compare it to the

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creature in the movie's Jeepers Creepers

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that's exactly what we saw

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obviously though this is just a movie

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I'm not religious but this is how I

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picture a demon

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Jump Ahead a month or so and I'm

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watching a pretty idiotic show called

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Monster Quest and they're focusing on

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the Creator uh called Mothman

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instantly I I'm freaking out again this

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thing fits what we saw except one detail

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the witnesses described glowing red eyes

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that peers through you we we didn't see

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that the deer bat was completely black

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and it was absent White

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we've never seen the deer bat again and

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to this day we tell people about what we

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what drugs were you on to be clear I

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don't do drugs

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now Tobias was able to interview Dalton

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about his experience

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and uh his story made largely unchange

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from the published report and according

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to Dalton entire siding lasts between 15

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and 20 seconds and neither he or his

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friend were able to discern any fine

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details about the creature's appearance

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I think Ark jumped out of the cornfield

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but never landed said dot it zigzagged

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back and forth like a bat

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there uh there were no glowing red eyes

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he continued it was just totally black

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it all happened so fast he couldn't we

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and he was able to recall that the wing

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being definitely had four appendages in

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addition to its wings

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although he's not certain if there were

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two arms and two legs or all four

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his friend felt seemed like a natural

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reaction to the situation rather than

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creature now this sighting

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occurred approximately 60 miles

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Northwest of Chicago and about 100 miles

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west of Lake Michigan

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it predates any of the earliest Chicago

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area sightings reported so far by by

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year

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again this was in 2010 but as the story

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continues to run older sightings

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beginning to report it be reported and

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and evidence of the next report

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we this was just the first one coming

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out of Rockford

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and uh you know I'm gonna I'm going to

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describe the Rockford sightings

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but then later on

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uh I not today not not in this

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presentation but in a a later

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presentation we're going to talk about

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another setting in Rockford

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that was a little more strange so uh but

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this is just the the earlier sightings

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now this other report came in to me

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uh a little more than a year later in

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October two thousand

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2018 I received a very similar report

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from the same region

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I just remember what I stated in in the

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I just found out about the flying

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humanoid sightings around Chicago in

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fact I'm going to get the book and see

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if there's anything related to what I

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encountered in the summer of 2010.

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this took place in Northern Illinois not

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far from Rockford

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our friend and I were just riding around

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my car as the day continued we decided

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to head out towards the county back

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roads

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we were both 17 and this was the summer

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before our senior year in high school

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now we had been riding around for

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several hours a night and around 10 pm

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we were on a gravel road I wasn't

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familiar with it was a location that had

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lots of Farmland all around and a few

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houses here and there now we were

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talking while I'm speeding along the

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gravel road there was no drinking or

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drugs involved the corn on both sides of

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the road was high

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I looked around I looked ahead excuse me

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and noticed that the road was about to

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dip so I slowed back

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as I approached the dip

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I could see the corn shaking on the

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right of me as the headlight hit it

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we both stopped talking as we watched

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the corn I thought it was probably deer

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about the Sprint out onto the road so I

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slowed down to a crawl the corn was now

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shaking violently we're staring at the

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corner waiting for the deer to jump out

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and all of a sudden the corn literally

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Parts open just to the right of us this

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thing steps out it was the size of a

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large man and all black

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as it walked out of the corner it was

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well eliminated by my headlights it

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leaped and opened these huge sets of set

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of wings and instantly went airborne

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it quickly flew right in front of my car

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and swooped up into the air as it

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reached the other side of the road I

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swear the first thing that came to my

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mind was

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the Creeper's Jeepers monster or Jeepers

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Creepers monster

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well I I didn't see any facial features

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but the wings were very wide it looked

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like that of a giant bat

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floored the gas pedal my friend was

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yelling to get out of there I drove as

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fast as I could trying to maintain

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control on the gravel surface

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we drew for a good five minutes before

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saying a word now the whole time we're

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looking around is hoping this thing

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wasn't chasing us

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we began to calm down and soon ended up

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on a road I knew

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now as I thought about it that thing

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looked like it was covered in shiny

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black tar

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it had a weird Sheen to it the fact that

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it accelerated into into flight so

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quickly had me stumped my friend and I

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talked about it through our entire

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senior year and never had to have never

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did have a clue as to what it was we've

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referred to it the flying tar man

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now we didn't dare tell anyone else at

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school I recently told my wife about it

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but she's a skeptic and doesn't believe

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in the Supernatural

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anyway after I heard about the sightings

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around Chicago I figured I'd track you

387
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down right about it I live in Texas

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currently and thanks for reading the

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guy's name was Kirk or Kurt and I called

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Kurt the same day contacted me to

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discuss the incident

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first I wanted to I was trying to figure

393
00:17:06,470 --> 00:17:04,079
out this guy wasn't copying the sighting

394
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from a year previous because it was

395
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really close in description

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now this now this sighting ain't

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happened in uh Winnebago County north of

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Rockford Illinois on a Gravel Road off

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of Route 70. he said he believes it was

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somewhere near wimple town

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he told me that the height was about six

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foot and the body was very thin he

403
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estimated that the wingspan was about 15

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foot

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he also said it definitely an arms legs

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the Jeepers Creepers reference was also

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used by several witnesses from the

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Chicago area as well now this is Roy

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strange because when I sent this off to

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um when I got it and I sent it off I

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think I either posted it first I sent it

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to to buys

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but then Tobias brought up the the

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previous siding a year pre you know

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before that in Rockford or near Rockford

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and I had completely forgotten about

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so uh yeah I mean was this the same

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thing I I don't know very well could

419
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have been

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I I'ma I didn't get a a

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00:18:16,370 --> 00:18:12,660
um an actual date when this happened

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from Kurt but you know from when we were

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talking about it later

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it did seem it was around the same time

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period the first was in 2010

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I I believe this was either 2010 and

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2012.

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but anyway it's just a very

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very interesting set of events it's

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almost like it was a doppelganger or

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maybe there are a bunch of those things

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flying around that that people were

433
00:18:45,230 --> 00:18:43,020
referred to as looking like something

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with tar on it but it's really strange

435
00:18:49,970 --> 00:18:47,220
but you know that's not the only setting

436
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we got in that Rockford area

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this was received just a little bit

438
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later November 23rd 2018.

439
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and they write hello I recently learned

440
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the Chicago humanoid sightings and then

441
00:19:09,049 --> 00:19:06,480
about the Black Wing humanoid sighting

442
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:09,059
near Rockford Illinois

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00:19:13,490 --> 00:19:11,160
this is shocking to me because I live in

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Winnebago County in a city Loves Park

445
00:19:18,890 --> 00:19:16,140
that borders Rockford and is 60 miles

446
00:19:21,289 --> 00:19:18,900
from Chicago and I have seen a similar

447
00:19:23,210 --> 00:19:21,299
Black Wing

448
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I was standing on the deck of my

449
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backyard late one summer evening it was

450
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August of 2004. now this is six years

451
00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:32,039
previous to the first sighting we got so

452
00:19:35,450 --> 00:19:33,840
this was you know we're talking about a

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range these first three sightings of

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maybe 10 to 12 years maybe not none not

455
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that much eight to ten years

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00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:43,320
now it was August of 2004 I was

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00:19:49,250 --> 00:19:46,020
stargazing as I often do when I was

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00:19:50,810 --> 00:19:49,260
startled by a sudden furious barking of

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00:19:52,850 --> 00:19:50,820
the neighbor's dog

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00:19:55,310 --> 00:19:52,860
as I turned and looked towards the

461
00:19:57,529 --> 00:19:55,320
direction of The Barking was at that

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00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:57,539
moment I saw an all black seven foot

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00:20:01,549 --> 00:19:59,039
length man

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00:20:05,570 --> 00:20:01,559
with huge bat-like wings flying across

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00:20:07,970 --> 00:20:05,580
the park that borders along my backyard

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it then descended to approximately five

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00:20:13,310 --> 00:20:10,080
to six feet above the ground

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it pulled or folded its wings in

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slightly and then glided along the paved

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path that runs through the park

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now continue gliding through an easement

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between two houses disappearing from my

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site

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now stunned by what I had just seen I

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quickly ran in through the back door and

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out the front stepping out into the

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front porch and that is when I heard a

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loud screeching sound

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the sound was so loud and it was coming

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from the victories lined across the

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street from my from the park on yet

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another easement

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now I quickly stepped back into the

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house shut and locked the door and woke

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00:20:53,810 --> 00:20:51,600
my sleeping husband

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I asked him to come listen to what I was

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hearing I told him what had happened and

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00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:58,559
what I saw on a way towards the living

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room window as a tree line could be seen

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from there the screeching continued

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sporadically for about approximately

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five minutes and then it went silent

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00:21:13,370 --> 00:21:10,980
now the afternoon of the following day

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after the incident as I was walking to

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the mailbox the elderly neighbor who

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00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:18,600
resided in the house at the tree line

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00:21:23,930 --> 00:21:21,600
easement borders the backyard he out

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00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:23,940
across the street asked me if I had a

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minute to take a look at something

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strange in his backyard

501
00:21:34,130 --> 00:21:30,240
but the neighbor showed me was a change

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like chain link fax fence posts that had

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been bent down at a 45 degree angle

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it was only and all the ones click it

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was only in all the ones closest to the

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tree line he was perplexed as to what

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00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:48,000
could have possibly caused this to

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00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:48,900
happen

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00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:51,840
I attempted to explain to him what it

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was I saw and heard the night before

511
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just as I went into detail that I saw

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something very large and strange flying

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I got a raised eyebrow with a look of

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00:22:10,130 --> 00:22:07,020
are you crazy and was told that what I

515
00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:10,140
saw was a heron and that no bird could

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00:22:14,690 --> 00:22:12,240
have bent the post like that so I

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00:22:17,810 --> 00:22:14,700
quickly dropped the subject as I went

518
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um

519
00:22:24,409 --> 00:22:22,260
now as a walk back another neighbor two

520
00:22:27,710 --> 00:22:24,419
houses away yelled hey did you hear all

521
00:22:30,830 --> 00:22:27,720
those loud weird noises last night

522
00:22:32,990 --> 00:22:30,840
it woke me up I thought the rainforest

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00:22:35,450 --> 00:22:33,000
of something moved in overnight

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00:22:37,310 --> 00:22:35,460
to which I replied yes I heard and I had

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no clue what it was

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00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:38,940
now

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I researched for a few months after my

528
00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:43,080
encounter and found out quite a bit

529
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:45,720
about Mothman studies however nothing

530
00:22:51,409 --> 00:22:47,760
out there matched what I saw that night

531
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:51,419
so as time went by it become all but a

532
00:22:58,130 --> 00:22:54,240
faded memory over the years until now

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00:23:00,110 --> 00:22:58,140
now EJ was the um was the witness and

534
00:23:02,029 --> 00:23:00,120
this now this is the third account that

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00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:02,039
we received from Winnebago County

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00:23:07,870 --> 00:23:04,320
Illinois near Rockford and

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00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:07,880
the incidents occurred between 2004 and

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00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:12,240
2010 maybe 2012 but all closely parallel

539
00:23:17,210 --> 00:23:14,159
the more recent sightings in the Chicago

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00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:17,220
Mentor area and Southern Wisconsin

541
00:23:22,190 --> 00:23:19,200
so

542
00:23:27,770 --> 00:23:26,149
just a few days later in November 2018 I

543
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,780
received another report from Rockford

544
00:23:31,070 --> 00:23:29,280
Illinois

545
00:23:33,549 --> 00:23:31,080
this was the fourth sighting in the area

546
00:23:36,730 --> 00:23:33,559
within and around the city this specific

547
00:23:39,289 --> 00:23:36,740
incident occurred in the late summer

548
00:23:41,330 --> 00:23:39,299
2017 so it was closer you know it was

549
00:23:43,450 --> 00:23:41,340
only a year away from

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00:23:46,130 --> 00:23:43,460
uh the other you know this sighting

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00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:46,140
around the same time the Chicago reports

552
00:23:50,510 --> 00:23:47,700
were coming forward

553
00:23:53,450 --> 00:23:50,520
now the the eyewitness KJ

554
00:23:55,549 --> 00:23:53,460
stage it was approximately 6 A.M

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00:23:57,230 --> 00:23:55,559
and that she was on the outside porch

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00:24:00,590 --> 00:23:57,240
now all of a sudden she observed a

557
00:24:02,750 --> 00:24:00,600
human-like being walking in yard of her

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00:24:05,810 --> 00:24:02,760
house on the corner of Bruce Street and

559
00:24:08,750 --> 00:24:05,820
Woodlawn Avenue in Rockford Illinois

560
00:24:10,970 --> 00:24:08,760
which was about a block away the being

561
00:24:13,730 --> 00:24:10,980
suddenly produced a large set of wings

562
00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:13,740
and took flight Gliding Over the back

563
00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:15,480
gate of the property

564
00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:17,700
it then disappeared into the trees and

565
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,280
foliage on the next block

566
00:24:25,730 --> 00:24:22,080
there was enough Morning Light available

567
00:24:30,049 --> 00:24:27,529
now she had trouble comprehensive

568
00:24:31,549 --> 00:24:30,059
comprehending what she had seen and

569
00:24:33,470 --> 00:24:31,559
immediately went back into the house to

570
00:24:36,649 --> 00:24:33,480
tell her boyfriend and his mother what

571
00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:36,659
she had seen she described the being as

572
00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:39,780
tall and dark almost black a wingspan

573
00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:42,240
was very Broad

574
00:24:46,250 --> 00:24:44,220
I was able to briefly talk to the

575
00:24:48,529 --> 00:24:46,260
witness about the incident she was

576
00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:48,539
apprehensive on coming forward

577
00:24:52,970 --> 00:24:50,280
until she was told about the other

578
00:24:53,630 --> 00:24:52,980
reports in the Rockford area by a you

579
00:24:59,270 --> 00:24:53,640
know

580
00:25:00,529 --> 00:24:59,280
of the Chicago Science whatsoever

581
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,539
so

582
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:02,640
with that being said

583
00:25:08,810 --> 00:25:05,039
and now these Rockford sightings getting

584
00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:08,820
out on my blog and out into the Press

585
00:25:15,230 --> 00:25:11,820
we got another sighting report from

586
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,330
and it was just actually it was just the

587
00:25:20,690 --> 00:25:19,440
next day after I had posted that last

588
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:20,700
report

589
00:25:25,010 --> 00:25:23,039
because I received a telephone call from

590
00:25:27,950 --> 00:25:25,020
an elderly woman

591
00:25:31,549 --> 00:25:27,960
who I'll refer to as SS

592
00:25:35,149 --> 00:25:31,559
in Rockford Illinois who witnessed a

593
00:25:37,010 --> 00:25:35,159
winged humanoid in 1999.

594
00:25:38,690 --> 00:25:37,020
along with her husband and a close

595
00:25:41,330 --> 00:25:38,700
friend

596
00:25:43,490 --> 00:25:41,340
so now we're talking almost

597
00:25:45,409 --> 00:25:43,500
almost 20 years

598
00:25:47,690 --> 00:25:45,419
anyway the incident occurred during the

599
00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:47,700
summer in the early evening when there

600
00:25:51,529 --> 00:25:49,080
was a full moon

601
00:25:53,570 --> 00:25:51,539
the trio was relaxing on the friend's

602
00:25:54,649 --> 00:25:53,580
front porch which was located on Willard

603
00:25:57,529 --> 00:25:54,659
Avenue

604
00:26:01,250 --> 00:25:57,539
uh West near Auburn High School and

605
00:26:04,190 --> 00:26:01,260
Cottonwood airport in Rockford Illinois

606
00:26:07,130 --> 00:26:04,200
during a conversation

607
00:26:09,289 --> 00:26:07,140
the friends stopped talking and began to

608
00:26:14,810 --> 00:26:09,299
stare across the street

609
00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:19,789
okay I just got lost there

610
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:22,909
okay the witness okay the friends uh

611
00:26:27,710 --> 00:26:25,740
here we go SS stated again that it

612
00:26:30,169 --> 00:26:27,720
seemed like a being was in slow motion

613
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:30,179
as it glided through the trees

614
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:33,120
the friend said do you see that

615
00:26:37,789 --> 00:26:35,039
the Witnesses were close enough to

616
00:26:40,430 --> 00:26:37,799
notice that it had small cat-like ears

617
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:40,440
and intense red eyes

618
00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:42,240
there were no other facial features

619
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:44,700
visible it was quite muscular throughout

620
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:47,520
the body and had two defined legs and

621
00:26:54,350 --> 00:26:51,120
had arms that attached to the wings

622
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,360
now she stated at the Wayne humanoid was

623
00:26:59,210 --> 00:26:56,159
seven foot in length with a wide

624
00:27:01,130 --> 00:26:59,220
wingspan the wings were like those of a

625
00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:01,140
bat with a leather-like membrane

626
00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:03,299
apparently the being perched in the tree

627
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:05,460
but again took flight

628
00:27:11,450 --> 00:27:08,400
this is when SS's husband took notice

629
00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:11,460
the wing beam was gliding toward a pair

630
00:27:16,669 --> 00:27:13,860
of large pine trees and its legs were

631
00:27:17,630 --> 00:27:16,679
kicking up and down while I was in

632
00:27:20,810 --> 00:27:17,640
flight

633
00:27:24,409 --> 00:27:20,820
the being flew between two pine trees

634
00:27:27,649 --> 00:27:24,419
and then suddenly vanished

635
00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:27,659
now SS said gargoyle and her friend

636
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:31,260
acknowledged yes a gargoyle now after

637
00:27:36,169 --> 00:27:33,840
the incidents stated that they seemed to

638
00:27:38,029 --> 00:27:36,179
have forgotten the encounter until a

639
00:27:40,370 --> 00:27:38,039
year later when she asked her friend if

640
00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:40,380
she remembered the sighting her friend

641
00:27:44,090 --> 00:27:43,080
said she had but she had also forgotten

642
00:27:46,130 --> 00:27:44,100
the incident

643
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:46,140
so you know this is something strange

644
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,200
too and I don't know if that's ever come

645
00:27:52,970 --> 00:27:51,360
up with any other sighting where the

646
00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:52,980
witnesses would suddenly forget and

647
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,159
recall it later but anyway now SS's son

648
00:28:01,070 --> 00:27:58,320
told her about the recent reports and

649
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:01,080
suggested that she comment

650
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:03,120
he was also aware of the wing humanoid

651
00:28:09,289 --> 00:28:05,760
sightings in the Chicago area

652
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,850
now you can go ahead and start putting

653
00:28:14,990 --> 00:28:12,720
up your questions too this is the last

654
00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:15,000
account I'm having tonight but anyway

655
00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:17,100
this was the second so anyway winged

656
00:28:20,269 --> 00:28:19,380
humanoid in which it suddenly vanished

657
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,279
now

658
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:22,320
the other sighting was in Chicago a few

659
00:28:27,890 --> 00:28:25,080
blocks from Wrigley Field

660
00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:27,900
this is also the fist sighting of uh

661
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:30,419
something in the Rockford area

662
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:33,120
so um

663
00:28:36,769 --> 00:28:35,039
the local fans might support the

664
00:28:39,490 --> 00:28:36,779
research teams will follow up with this

665
00:28:42,769 --> 00:28:39,500
witness and and Tobias did

666
00:29:03,529 --> 00:28:42,779
uh so

667
00:29:21,649 --> 00:29:05,029
I can't believe we don't have any

668
00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:23,210
okay

669
00:29:28,730 --> 00:29:25,260
Tina Johnson

670
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:28,740
have they tried to harm

671
00:29:38,330 --> 00:29:37,190
well there wasn't a and I've talked

672
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,340
about this

673
00:29:41,930 --> 00:29:40,799
uh when all this started back you know

674
00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:41,940
well

675
00:29:48,350 --> 00:29:44,760
when we started getting the large number

676
00:29:52,370 --> 00:29:48,360
of reports in 2017

677
00:29:54,289 --> 00:29:52,380
we um I did start I did get older

678
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:54,299
reports like many of these were order

679
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:55,919
reports

680
00:30:00,409 --> 00:29:58,559
but um

681
00:30:03,289 --> 00:30:00,419
according to

682
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:03,299
an individual who was a friend of a

683
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:06,720
friend back in 2015

684
00:30:13,490 --> 00:30:09,600
there was this couple who were Navajo

685
00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:13,500
inheritage had moved to Chicago

686
00:30:19,070 --> 00:30:16,620
and they had one day they were driving

687
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:19,080
around and they had this thing following

688
00:30:23,570 --> 00:30:21,360
them and that this this Wing being

689
00:30:25,610 --> 00:30:23,580
literally attacked the car and

690
00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:25,620
eventually got its claws inside the

691
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,419
passenger window and it tried to attack

692
00:30:32,210 --> 00:30:29,039
the woman

693
00:30:33,769 --> 00:30:32,220
now they took off and tried to beat this

694
00:30:35,090 --> 00:30:33,779
thing to get home so they could beat

695
00:30:37,549 --> 00:30:35,100
this thing they were hoping it wouldn't

696
00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:37,559
follow them but unfortunately when they

697
00:30:43,070 --> 00:30:40,740
did get home she got out of the car

698
00:30:45,470 --> 00:30:43,080
is this thing jumped on her back it

699
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,480
swooped down and jumped on her back and

700
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,520
according to the witness who contacted

701
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:49,919
me he was told about this by this

702
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:51,840
couple's son

703
00:30:58,669 --> 00:30:56,399
and uh she had a fairly large laceration

704
00:31:00,830 --> 00:30:58,679
on her back shoulder

705
00:31:03,049 --> 00:31:00,840
I don't know which side it was but it

706
00:31:05,389 --> 00:31:03,059
required stitches

707
00:31:07,130 --> 00:31:05,399
I don't know you know I don't know how

708
00:31:09,230 --> 00:31:07,140
the doctors interpreted that I don't

709
00:31:12,289 --> 00:31:09,240
even know if they told the doctors

710
00:31:14,570 --> 00:31:12,299
but uh it's quite interesting so um that

711
00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:14,580
was probably the only time that I know

712
00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:17,520
of or somebody inferred that there was

713
00:31:22,250 --> 00:31:21,240
there was actual uh physical harm to a

714
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:22,260
human

715
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:24,960
some people have interpreted maybe some

716
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:27,840
uh bluffing or charging as being

717
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:29,760
aggressive but it just hasn't really

718
00:31:35,630 --> 00:31:32,159
panned out to where anybody else has

719
00:31:41,510 --> 00:31:38,029
so mortal clown does anyone feel they're

720
00:31:44,930 --> 00:31:41,520
getting messages from Mothman

721
00:31:48,649 --> 00:31:44,940
well as as you know we had you know we

722
00:31:50,330 --> 00:31:48,659
had this possibility of um some type of

723
00:31:52,750 --> 00:31:50,340
connection

724
00:31:56,269 --> 00:31:52,760
with this being

725
00:31:58,370 --> 00:31:56,279
uh about a year and a half ago

726
00:32:01,610 --> 00:31:58,380
and it was kind of concentrated in in

727
00:32:03,409 --> 00:32:01,620
the cemetery at the airport

728
00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:03,419
uh

729
00:32:07,610 --> 00:32:05,460
that's still there's still a lot of

730
00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:07,620
questions about that

731
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:13,970
we really haven't gone beyond just the

732
00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:17,279
initial contact

733
00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:19,580
but uh as far as just getting messages

734
00:32:25,690 --> 00:32:22,620
yeah we have had messages

735
00:32:30,169 --> 00:32:28,669
in fact two of the individuals on the

736
00:32:32,930 --> 00:32:30,179
team right now who are still with the

737
00:32:35,930 --> 00:32:32,940
team did get messages

738
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:35,940
but I I'm just I'm not getting into that

739
00:32:41,450 --> 00:32:38,399
at this point that I may get into that

740
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:41,460
as we go further room down the road

741
00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:42,480
um

742
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:46,200
and I I will say this now

743
00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:48,480
I might be jump the gun but no this is

744
00:32:54,169 --> 00:32:49,620
going to happen

745
00:32:56,930 --> 00:32:54,179
uh Tobias Manuel and I

746
00:32:58,669 --> 00:32:56,940
are going to be meeting in Chicago in

747
00:33:01,250 --> 00:32:58,679
about a month

748
00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:01,260
because we're filming an episode for

749
00:33:05,870 --> 00:33:03,720
Unsolved Mysteries on Netflix

750
00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:05,880
and it's all about Chicago Mothman

751
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:07,320
phenomena

752
00:33:15,169 --> 00:33:12,529
maybe we're going to be able to cover

753
00:33:17,210 --> 00:33:15,179
some of that as we get into there but as

754
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:17,220
we go further you know I go further with

755
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:20,399
this series and I do have Tobias and and

756
00:33:24,289 --> 00:33:22,260
the Manuel coming on

757
00:33:26,450 --> 00:33:24,299
the show in about three weeks we're

758
00:33:28,970 --> 00:33:26,460
gonna do a Wednesday night show

759
00:33:30,769 --> 00:33:28,980
uh we'll talk about that a bit more so

760
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:30,779
you know look for that

761
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:33,120
now before we start that'll be before we

762
00:33:45,250 --> 00:33:40,690
Tina asked are any apparent

763
00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:48,409
it's not apparent

764
00:33:54,350 --> 00:33:50,760
but from our understanding

765
00:33:57,049 --> 00:33:54,360
through the initial communication

766
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:57,059
that the beings that are being seen are

767
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,720
juveniles of their species now there

768
00:34:04,909 --> 00:34:02,640
there are a lot of different

769
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:04,919
these Wing humanoids are there seem to

770
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:08,159
be some differences in a lot of them

771
00:34:14,329 --> 00:34:12,480
um but it has been told to us

772
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:14,339
that these are juveniles of their

773
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:16,020
species it's almost like a rite of

774
00:34:18,349 --> 00:34:17,520
passage thing they've got to come into

775
00:34:20,030 --> 00:34:18,359
our

776
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:20,040
yeah I mean this is what I'm assuming

777
00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:21,839
they got to come into our Earth plane

778
00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:23,940
somehow I I

779
00:34:27,290 --> 00:34:25,740
am almost positive they're

780
00:34:28,849 --> 00:34:27,300
inter-dimensional

781
00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:28,859
that they have the ability to move

782
00:34:33,169 --> 00:34:31,560
within different dimensions very linear

783
00:34:35,450 --> 00:34:33,179
to our Earth plane

784
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:35,460
and when they do so they maintain

785
00:34:39,470 --> 00:34:37,440
physical form

786
00:34:41,570 --> 00:34:39,480
so um

787
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:41,580
you know I I'm not going to talk a whole

788
00:34:44,450 --> 00:34:43,200
lot about that until I get more

789
00:34:47,570 --> 00:34:44,460
information

790
00:34:48,530 --> 00:34:47,580
uh at this point we've we haven't really

791
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:48,540
been

792
00:34:52,849 --> 00:34:51,119
having any contact now for almost a year

793
00:34:56,270 --> 00:34:52,859
if not more

794
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:56,280
and um I don't know if we will that's

795
00:34:59,329 --> 00:34:57,839
just something we're gonna have to hope

796
00:35:00,650 --> 00:34:59,339
happens again

797
00:35:02,329 --> 00:35:00,660
so

798
00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:02,339
you know it's interesting we're going to

799
00:35:08,270 --> 00:35:04,380
Chicago maybe something will pop up

800
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:10,730
uh aggravated Progressive do you think

801
00:35:15,230 --> 00:35:13,200
it's the same species as the Mothman

802
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:15,240
lawn no I don't I think it's something

803
00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:17,520
different but I think the originate from

804
00:35:21,710 --> 00:35:19,380
somewhere in the same area

805
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:21,720
but as far as the descriptions and the

806
00:35:27,290 --> 00:35:24,240
mannerisms uh it's in completely

807
00:35:29,150 --> 00:35:27,300
different for the most part these are

808
00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:29,160
very emaciated looking humanoids the

809
00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:31,020
other one was the Mothman of Point

810
00:35:34,370 --> 00:35:33,240
Pleasant was insectoid with moth like

811
00:35:37,609 --> 00:35:34,380
wings

812
00:35:40,370 --> 00:35:37,619
that that had very large red eyes and

813
00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:40,380
each report in The Point Pleasant area

814
00:35:44,810 --> 00:35:42,900
had the red eyes that isn't always the

815
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:44,820
case with what's going on in Chicagoland

816
00:35:49,609 --> 00:35:46,980
area not all of them have red eyes

817
00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:49,619
and of course the the wing structure is

818
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:51,960
much different and the characteristics

819
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:53,760
are somewhat different as well

820
00:35:58,010 --> 00:35:56,160
do I believe the Mothman and Point

821
00:35:59,810 --> 00:35:58,020
Pleasant is an interdimensional being oh

822
00:36:03,349 --> 00:35:59,820
absolutely I think it is

823
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,359
and I do believe it it may still be

824
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:05,280
around if

825
00:36:10,130 --> 00:36:08,040
up to just a couple years ago if it's

826
00:36:11,630 --> 00:36:10,140
maybe it's still there but we know we've

827
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:11,640
had sightings

828
00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:14,880
we still had sleddings ever since 67.

829
00:36:20,210 --> 00:36:17,640
uh I get a sighting out of the Mason

830
00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:20,220
County area every once in a while and a

831
00:36:22,849 --> 00:36:21,480
lot of times it's very near Point

832
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:22,859
Pleasant

833
00:36:26,569 --> 00:36:24,720
so um

834
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,579
of course you got to be very skeptical

835
00:36:30,770 --> 00:36:28,320
when you start getting reports out of

836
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:30,780
Point Pleasant area people thinking

837
00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:34,079
people are being copycats but I I think

838
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:36,660
the ones that I have talked about

839
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:40,320
or um may very well be

840
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:49,190
okay Thomas Carroll

841
00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:52,250
if any Mothman calls flight destructions

842
00:36:56,329 --> 00:36:53,400
at O'Hara

843
00:37:01,970 --> 00:36:59,810
with the hair and the FAA it may very

844
00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:01,980
well have happened but I have not heard

845
00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:03,060
of anything

846
00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:05,640
and I'm quite sure if we file a foia

847
00:37:08,930 --> 00:37:07,440
request we're not going to get any get

848
00:37:10,970 --> 00:37:08,940
any information

849
00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:10,980
from that

850
00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:13,260
um I don't know how something like that

851
00:37:24,829 --> 00:37:22,010
under Tia the TSA or Homeland Security

852
00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:24,839
if they're they're if they're able to

853
00:37:31,609 --> 00:37:27,960
report things like that I don't know

854
00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:31,619
I I mean so far we haven't had any type

855
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,060
of accident where something may have got

856
00:37:38,270 --> 00:37:35,040
sucked up into an engine

857
00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:38,280
but uh because I think that would have

858
00:37:42,829 --> 00:37:39,660
happened I at least would have heard

859
00:37:46,010 --> 00:37:42,839
something as far as with the witnesses I

860
00:37:48,050 --> 00:37:46,020
know at um at O'Hare who are there a lot

861
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,060
plus Manuel would have heard something

862
00:37:55,810 --> 00:37:50,400
as well so I don't think that has

863
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:58,670
any news from injured Cole recently no

864
00:38:03,890 --> 00:38:00,720
we haven't heard a thing

865
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:03,900
I haven't heard a thing in fact I I know

866
00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:13,790
to uh cosmic ray ray

867
00:38:18,410 --> 00:38:16,440
um may have some more information on

868
00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:18,420
that you know he's he's coming up with

869
00:38:23,569 --> 00:38:21,240
all kinds of stuff so um

870
00:38:26,329 --> 00:38:23,579
but I think if he did or have her

871
00:38:28,609 --> 00:38:26,339
something or any Revelations he'd have

872
00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:28,619
told me about it but no I haven't heard

873
00:38:34,810 --> 00:38:29,880
a thing and I haven't heard anything

874
00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:37,730
uh Dave McGinnis

875
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:40,500
as DNA evidence been recovered from

876
00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:43,440
these creatures not that I know of

877
00:38:46,849 --> 00:38:45,420
I you know I I really don't know of any

878
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:46,859
physical evidence that's ever been

879
00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:48,720
retrieved from these beings

880
00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:51,660
other than the only thing I can think of

881
00:38:56,089 --> 00:38:52,740
is

882
00:38:57,470 --> 00:38:56,099
the apparent stone that was gifted to

883
00:38:59,210 --> 00:38:57,480
Manuel

884
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,220
at the cemetery

885
00:39:03,770 --> 00:39:01,680
so I I know as far as something that we

886
00:39:05,390 --> 00:39:03,780
know it would have touched

887
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:05,400
I don't know

888
00:39:13,609 --> 00:39:09,359
there's been any DNA evident

889
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:13,619
uh recovered uh from those those Wing

890
00:39:27,050 --> 00:39:23,870
Tina Johnson

891
00:39:29,810 --> 00:39:27,060
can you guess at their purpose here

892
00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:29,820
yeah I can guess

893
00:39:41,089 --> 00:39:37,130
I I think this whole exercise by these

894
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:41,099
beings is like maybe a Rite of Passage

895
00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:43,140
um

896
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:46,020
maybe they've got they've got to come

897
00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:49,680
into our Earth plane as some type of um

898
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,200
proof or some type of thing they've got

899
00:39:55,790 --> 00:39:54,480
to go through when they reach a certain

900
00:39:57,770 --> 00:39:55,800
age

901
00:39:59,569 --> 00:39:57,780
some type of tradition

902
00:40:00,890 --> 00:39:59,579
I think that's what it is I think it's

903
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:00,900
something like I don't think they're

904
00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:07,849
I I don't really see any correlation

905
00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:09,780
between anything that has happened in

906
00:40:13,550 --> 00:40:11,880
the Chicago area as a you know during

907
00:40:16,910 --> 00:40:13,560
this period of time

908
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:16,920
uh that would have one question that

909
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:20,640
maybe it's related to The Winged beings

910
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,160
I don't know you know this is this is

911
00:40:28,670 --> 00:40:25,920
just another big this is a big question

912
00:40:31,130 --> 00:40:28,680
I'm hoping that we can somehow get some

913
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:31,140
type of communication started up again I

914
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:32,040
don't know if that's going to be

915
00:40:36,349 --> 00:40:33,200
possible

916
00:40:39,410 --> 00:40:36,359
uh it didn't quite go the way we wanted

917
00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:39,420
the last time and uh

918
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:41,460
maybe they're going to try again but

919
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:43,920
we'll see but I would definitely that

920
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:45,839
would be something I may I'd be asking

921
00:40:58,010 --> 00:40:53,329
uh bear zifa have there been any MIB

922
00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:00,650
the only incident and I'll probably talk

923
00:41:04,730 --> 00:41:02,220
about this next week of the week after

924
00:41:06,290 --> 00:41:04,740
him or there was a school teacher who

925
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:06,300
had seen

926
00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:10,079
one of these Wing beings a

927
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:13,260
a great like being and two other

928
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:16,800
humanoids that look like female women

929
00:41:23,710 --> 00:41:20,240
at a park near her home

930
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:23,720
and the day or two after that occurred

931
00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:28,560
not long after she had talked to us

932
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:31,260
someone approached her at the cafeteria

933
00:41:37,609 --> 00:41:33,839
I had a job at her at school

934
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:37,619
and ask her about what if she reported

935
00:41:43,010 --> 00:41:40,560
what she saw or had to encounter with

936
00:41:45,710 --> 00:41:43,020
and it freaked her out now

937
00:41:47,810 --> 00:41:45,720
as ver that type of that type of

938
00:41:49,730 --> 00:41:47,820
activity is very um

939
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:49,740
similar to what people talk about with

940
00:41:53,630 --> 00:41:52,079
Men in Black now

941
00:41:55,310 --> 00:41:53,640
could it been a men in black or

942
00:41:57,290 --> 00:41:55,320
something like that

943
00:41:59,690 --> 00:41:57,300
this person wasn't dressed in black I

944
00:42:01,370 --> 00:41:59,700
mean they were in the um what she and I

945
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:01,380
understood what she said was some type

946
00:42:07,490 --> 00:42:05,280
of Overcoat but it was light and color

947
00:42:09,050 --> 00:42:07,500
um I don't know but I know it freaked

948
00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:09,060
her out so

949
00:42:16,190 --> 00:42:13,320
as far as any other sightings

950
00:42:17,810 --> 00:42:16,200
with the the Men in Black you know other

951
00:42:20,510 --> 00:42:17,820
than what

952
00:42:22,730 --> 00:42:20,520
John Keel wrote about at Point Pleasant

953
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:22,740
with these so-called Men In Black

954
00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:25,200
showing up around the town I I just have

955
00:42:32,510 --> 00:42:27,300
not had those type of reports in Chicago

956
00:42:37,069 --> 00:42:34,810
could we ask the lady who was attached

957
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,079
attacked to draw what it looked like

958
00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:39,599
close up I had never talked to her this

959
00:42:44,510 --> 00:42:42,060
was all this was all secondhand

960
00:42:46,730 --> 00:42:44,520
information so um

961
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:46,740
you know take it with a grain of salt I

962
00:42:51,230 --> 00:42:49,680
I never really put it up onto the uh the

963
00:42:53,569 --> 00:42:51,240
sightings map it's just another

964
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,579
incidental

965
00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:55,680
um event that happened that may be

966
00:42:59,569 --> 00:42:57,660
related to this

967
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:59,579
um but since I didn't really talk to the

968
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:01,680
witness itself I can't really do much

969
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,230
Kate Donnelly

970
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:14,450
have witnesses have been visited by Men

971
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,800
In Black at their studies no it just has

972
00:43:20,690 --> 00:43:18,240
not happened other than what I told you

973
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,510
Tina Johnson

974
00:43:27,650 --> 00:43:25,680
why the proliferation of sightings in

975
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,660
Illinois well I wish we knew I think it

976
00:43:32,210 --> 00:43:29,520
has something to do with

977
00:43:34,849 --> 00:43:32,220
with portals I think um

978
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,859
they're coming in certain portals into

979
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:36,480
this Earth plane

980
00:43:43,609 --> 00:43:40,079
and um why it's that and I believe it's

981
00:43:45,170 --> 00:43:43,619
it's at the at the airport at the Rest

982
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,180
Haven Cemetery

983
00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:47,280
uh I mean that may change down the road

984
00:43:50,930 --> 00:43:49,020
these things have popped up a lot of

985
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,940
different places but more recently in

986
00:43:54,650 --> 00:43:52,560
the past three or four years

987
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:54,660
it seems like the activity kind of

988
00:43:58,010 --> 00:43:56,400
centers around the airport

989
00:44:00,050 --> 00:43:58,020
and I think that's where it's happening

990
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,060
so

991
00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:02,640
I have no idea why they're showing up I

992
00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:04,140
wish I did

993
00:44:09,470 --> 00:44:07,560
uh d-a-y song

994
00:44:11,450 --> 00:44:09,480
on do you think they are observing us

995
00:44:14,030 --> 00:44:11,460
trying to get our attention

996
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:14,040
well they've got our attention

997
00:44:19,630 --> 00:44:16,800
I don't I don't know if they're actually

998
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:19,640
observing us

999
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:22,319
uh but they're not you know they're not

1000
00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:26,640
shy about showing up and and being seen

1001
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:32,450
I I truly think that they want certain

1002
00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:34,800
people to see them

1003
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:37,380
and the way I reason I say it is in many

1004
00:44:41,329 --> 00:44:39,780
instances where they show up or a crowd

1005
00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:41,339
of people there's only a few people that

1006
00:44:45,470 --> 00:44:43,200
see it

1007
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:45,480
and I think they have some abilities to

1008
00:44:50,030 --> 00:44:48,000
distinguish who actually sees them

1009
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,040
I know it's kind of a crazy Theory but

1010
00:44:53,329 --> 00:44:52,319
you know this whole investigation has

1011
00:44:55,970 --> 00:44:53,339
been

1012
00:44:59,210 --> 00:44:55,980
marked with crazy theories and a lot of

1013
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:59,220
strange high strangers and other weird

1014
00:45:03,290 --> 00:45:00,720
activity

1015
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:06,170
okay folks well

1016
00:45:09,410 --> 00:45:07,680
I want to thank each all you for

1017
00:45:10,849 --> 00:45:09,420
watching and chatting

1018
00:45:13,309 --> 00:45:10,859
um

1019
00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:13,319
you know it's great to have you all come

1020
00:45:18,050 --> 00:45:15,780
in here and talk about this

1021
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:18,060
again please like And subscribe and

1022
00:45:21,890 --> 00:45:20,520
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1023
00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:21,900
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1024
00:45:26,329 --> 00:45:23,940
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1025
00:45:28,730 --> 00:45:26,339
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1026
00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:28,740
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1027
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1028
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1029
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:37,740
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